A True humanist everyone can learn from. Why cannot they just accept they have another Sikh brother in their presence. When I was at high school the girls found out I was an charmer I was treated very mean and they made sure I newuntil i said get over yourselfso dont anyone tell you what your arebe pure in your heart x. bahanchod ne aadhe surname to jatt ke daal rakhe hai jaise sandhu,singhmar ,singh, sidhu,bal etc. Degloorkar. They fought well but they lost. Their resentment manifests in above like comments. SHOCKING to say the least!! When I tell them I am not a hindu or Sikh , they say , you must be low caste. However I will educate you on what you dont know based on facts and evidence. Thank you all beautiful souls here. people belong to sc and bc classes never hesitate to tell about their castes. so respect all castes , communities in the world. code caste 1 brahmin 2 chamar 3 harijan 4 julaha 5 koli 6 luhar 7 nai (barber) 8 rajput 9 teli (oilman) 9. state wise list of castes state karnataka code caste 1 acharas . chamar is a turning point for the people 'beyond the four castes' who stitch together in a claim for identity . India is for all castes we come from the same land, flag and when India does well we all feel much better. The list is not comprehensive. No amount of help or acts can help to save you from atrocities unless you learn to retaliate. I know a guy in US who was using Chahal & I though he is jutt though other Sikh guy use to smile when I would talk to this Chahal .. finally came to know that he was Chamar why he said he is Jutt .. by abusing other cast wont get you anywhere ! Chamar that are followers of Dera Ballan and similar authorities and chamar who havent a clue bout life and religion call themselves Hindu by default always talk about discrimination, chamar identity and all the rest of the nonsense they do, they are the instigators that cause hate and racial abuse amongst all sikh communities.. Why dont they give it a rest, wasnt this the reason they formed their own religion to separate and have their own identity, yet they still go on and on talking the same old sh*t.. Some illiterate, ignorant Sikhs started practicing caste and decided not to respect what our gurus did to eradicate caste. Im Jatt but I dont give a flying f#ck about caste. plus a USB port to be able to connect the thumb push, The jatts, hitherto 300 years, did not own land but had leased land as tenants and worked as peasant farmers.They often borrowed money from the lallas with extortionate interest rates and and also had to pay their landlord rent and share the crop ( n.b. Guru Ravidass Shakti Amar Rahe, Bassan surname is Ramgarhia, jathere at pind Chama near Tanda, Jila Hoshiarpur, but as people in this world are so knowledgeable, anything can be stated and taken as gospel. Indo Aryan Hindus divided themselves in 4 caste or professions Brahmins , Kshatriya , Vaish and Sudra ( people who do physical work like farming , horticulture , Gwala or Ahir etc.) It is definitely even Wi-Fi available. Hinduism is a man made religion which is totally fake. ETC, 22 khokar to mazahabi hote h agar punjab side ka ho to btaiyo k atwal kya chamar surname h, Please Add These Also. [17] The association discriminated against lower-status Chamars, such as the "Guliyas", who did not claim Kshatriya status. 8, S: 270), If a shudra calls people from other castes harshly then put an eight inch long hot iron rod in his mouth. It is very unfortunate that people from reserved caste now treat reservation as a trump card and neglect studies. Lahane. Parvathamma, C. (1989), Scheduled Castes at the Cross Roads, Ashish Publishing House, Delhi. Furthermore he said Manyo na sikh unko jo jaat paat ki reet chalavey jehrha; manyo sikh unko jo jaat paat ko mateve jehrha. Dont you think they should be advised rather forced to change their surnames to some other neutral surnames. u r just anonymous nothing els. hi..just wanted to say i really respect your community.i m not from your castebut wants to tell that you all have definitely reached heights in various sectors of lifeyou should be proud of yourselvesdont feel ashamed or hesitatejust FLAUNT your caste as much as the other so called higher caste morons do for no reasongrab all the sectors and make our stupid govt to realise n to remove the caste system n reservations from our nation at the earliestso that the word CASTE doesnt exist at all why doesnt anyone think abt dem. People who dont have knowledge of Shastra or veda is not a pundit. If Guru Arjun Dev Ji did not compile his bani in GGSJ, no one would of heard of him. Bhardwaj comes from Rishi Bhardwaj who is a renowned Brahmin in the Hindu religion. This surname originally rajput but also falls into rajputs, jatts and also chamars. Summan . The use of caste names is the rule for all 6000 castes in India. They believe that leatherwork is "degrading" when compared to weaving. so all those who are sikh are sc only . Further more many chamars, who may have been brahmins, were rulers and as they lost their power were also thrown out and outcasted. It seems to you are the dumb ass and dont know anything or have not learnt anything except live in total ignorance. All jatts are not bad but some have to much ego which is against sikhi. o bhai listen firstly go and read the indian constituion .usk baad smjho usme kya likha hai . You people who follow amritbani and Dera ballan etc do not represent the whole community. hello. Godbless. Neha, you cant change the system and peoples mindset. I can say this! so search about yourself and proud on yourself. Kash does not know nor understand the reasons why reservation was enshrined in the Indian constitution, by the Father and Chief Architect of the Indian constitution, Dr BR Ambedkar, the most and best educated person in India at the time, approved by Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Jawhar Lal Nehru amongst others and finally by the Indian Parliament in 1952. Thakare. 10%. Thanks for the list. In 40 years i have never heard my huge family(the jatt one) talk about this bullshit. The scheduled castes are only 22%, scheduled tribes 5%, Other backward castes 48%. There are still those who oppose our emancipation, those want to keep us poor and vulnerable so as to provide them with the cheap labour that they require. te nale hun asi apne aap nu kattar chamar dasde aa. check dis frnds-http://www.facebook.com/pages/Im-chamar-and-im-proud-of-being-so/103545543080725?skip_nax_wizard=true, i take steroids Does that mean that last name is now of Chamar and European heritage? We finally, after all the hardships, have a voice, and i for one am glad that my people are using it. Please all those of you contributing to the website search you hearts and minds and work for better humanity and not promote a thousands years old system and come out into the new 21st century. my chamar caste and beliefs doesnot allow me to harass other innocent . I also belong to you chamar community and not ashamed but respect my Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Raghbir Singh, dont let this worry you too much. Aur desh aage badhega. At that point they curse the brahmins for creating this wretched caste system. If traced back, so many of those last names are Jatt and only Jatt. They also joined the ranks of chamars or other castes. please also add gotherwal we are very neech kind of chammar. Really I dont understand where people make this shit up from. AMBEDKAR WAS BORN IN MAHAR REGIMENT MAHOO, WHERE HIS FATHER RAMAJIRAO WAS A SUBEDAR. Yogendra Singhji thank you for your intellectual contribution here about what happened to our people and how they came to be subjugated eventually by the foreign invader aryans and how they took all our human rights away reduced us to what Guru Ravidass says , jaat kamini path kamini oucha janama humara (ie reduced us to low caste/untouchables and took all our self respect and honour and made our existence as human beings as worthless), legal and religious disabilities were imposed conceived by evil and racist aryans, the Brahmin ancesters. The only thing Im pissed off about is you morons taking our last names and posting them as your own on this retarded website. Sikhs helped DC of Amritsar to catch these revolutionaries and more than 300 were burried alive in AJNALA near Amritsar. How do they reconcile the two opposing ideas. There are no specific gods, no specific way of worship . It is a widely spread community in the state of Himachal Pradesh. Some adopted the surnames of their villages such as Gill and Rai, originally Jatt surnames, or close derivatives such as Shergill and Kalirai . Please leave your email here I will get him to send you a reply. If the sikh is higher caste than than jatt they feel bad is kshatri, who looks down on the jatts as nothing but a peasant, if it is lower caste he feels superior. So, here's a list of things that you, the so-called upper castes, should never say to, or ask, Dalits. Sandhu is another of those names. Rojatkar. Well, I respect what youre saying, and no Im not hindu, Im from a 100% Sikh family but I wont claim to be a real Sikh as Im not very religious. Ambekar. pandu was never designated brahmin though s/o brahmin . Aur dosto me aapko bta du me Batwal community se hu jisko pehchan ki jaruart sayd nhi hai eminient persons of batwal community are as under. A prime example of this is done by Mr Amarjit Mall on YouTube who is the biggest racist and politician and sh*t stirrer. . It shows the ignorance many young jatts who are devoid of knowledge. If you still claim your a Hindu then carry on believing the caste system and be a product of it because in sikhi there is no caste. They are basically tanners and leather workers, considered untouchables and thus kept outside the Hindu society. Im not religious but I still dont believe in the caste system in the sense that the higher ups should get privileges and reign over the lower caste. JAI HIND..JAI CHAMAAR. In the Shivalik Hills Kolis call themselves New Rajput or Kshatriya. levels as well as accurate designs. Jai Guru Ravidas Ji. However, If you or your ancesters were outcasted like many chamars from higher castes for infringment of caste rules and retained your surname and has been used by your family since time immomorial then you are a chamar like everybody else here. Or even lie about it if you can. I am only Rajput not a chamar. Toh bhaiyo apni soch badlo aap sab padhe likhe ho. Achank gir ke mar gayee. The Illuminated, agree with you. kisi bhi naam s bula lo. What is the need to tell anyone about your caste? police ki naukari mili pura systm barbad . When the Mandal Commission Report recommended that the Shudras(OBCs) should also be given reservation, students from the 15%, instigated by the RSS and its sister organisations, started agitation encouraging students from previleged 15% castes to protest against the proposals by setting themselves alight so as to cause outrage in the country to stop the proposals also citing caste and not merit as the main consideration for allocation of student enterance into prestigeous education institutions. Kalsons grows up the social status of chamar community in haryana. From what i can see you have condemned many people on this feed for using inappropriate and vulger remarks, but you have decided to defend this lady simply because she married a chamar. Chamars were not castist or racist they were forced to become castist and racist by Sikhs. Hotkar.kharatmol.sadafule. And pls kde v apne aap nu chhota na smjho u r better thn other.. Bs ik request a pls waal rkh k real sikh bn jao. If the poor Brahmins of landless takhurs or labouring baniyas feel disenfrachised of power I think I will feel sorry for them and also throw bread crumbs of reservation at them. this a proud situation for us beacuse we never ever change our caste after thousands of years . I 2nd that I knew nothing of the caste system until I was 14. You will only talk about caste and discrimination. India's population speaks a wide variety of languages and nearly every major religion in the world has a following in India. Majotity of bhatoa are in Hoshiarpur. Kalson family is very reputed family of haryana every body knows the kalson sir name in haryana, pls add the kalson sir name is to sirname list of kalson. If the officers were produced without using reservation system Then only 1 can be proud of that caste. There is no high or low in Sikhism. I know one of you morons is going to comment saying some shit about sikhism and the caste system, and wellsuck my dick. so love all do good .their karma of hate / abuses / feeling bad of others shall return to them only in form OF THEIR bhagya . Under the unification drive of BSP, these rival castes came together for the cause of unity of Dalits under same political umbrella.[26]. You are disturting the truth by relying on your own prejudices and falsehood you have been fed by your parents and your jat friends. Lets all work together and live together in peace. Sorry that I am addressing a lot of different points brought up here.I will say againyour gripe should be with the Indian govt .Not with Jats.Jats have done well without any help from others.The other thing is..you need to educate yourself on the difference btw RELIGION and POLITICS as you seem to be very confused.Just because you agree with someones social policies that does not mean that mere man becomes a God.I agree with Cameron but I know he is just a man.Last point is that somehow you have this need that Jats should not be proud (for proud read secure).Them been proud seems to annoy you, but you feel that you want to say proud to be chamar but somebody else needs to not be proud.Listen to yourselves. And it does not necessarily lead to increase in corruption because when Scheduled officers are appointed they often are not connected to their political masters or higher officers, who are often from the higher castes often either Brahmins,kshatriya or Viasha; and thus if they were corrupt they have no higher person to protect them. I have a friend who is a klair and he is definitely a chamar. Taking birth in a certain caste is nobodys control. These surnames are common amongst jatt and chamar so you cant say jatt owned the surnames. my email id is sizzlingvivek14@gmail.com. It is my experience that Sikhs are the most racist people in the world. Jai Hind, Jai Guru Ravidas Ji. Account No. Jaat be Kaya Jatte hote hai yeh to bhebkofo ka dusra nam hai , iss phar koe bhebkuff naaz kar sakta hai. You should tell your caste boldly and unapologetically. Its a shame this has happened, when full respect and highest honour is given to Bhagat Ravidassia Ji from all Sikhs. Mehtr Ram, of Churela village in Raigarh district of Chhattisgarh, is a Ramnami, originally a group from the Chamar caste who rejected the caste system and adopted a form of bhakti or a devotional path with Ram at its centre. Its simple as that ! You Chamar Dont speak any bad thing on Jaat because we are much much much better than you you shitty mans, SHITTY MANS TUM HO OK WAISE ARJUN TUM JAATO KE PASS KYA 4 HATH PAIR H, OR JAAT HOGE TUM APNE GHAR KE SAMJE YE JAAT JAAT KI KHOF DIKHANE KI KOI JARURAT NAI H, Bains surname chamar da vi aa. may god bless to all .thanks. In reference to villages of Rohtas and Bhojpur district of Bihar, prevalence of a practice was revealed, in which it was obligatory for the women of Chamar and Dusadh community to have contact with house work with their Rajput landlord and these Dalit often implicate the other form of oppression which was inflicted on them was disallowing them to walk on the pathways and draw water from the wells, which belonged to Rajputs. If you have any comments, please discuss them appropriately here. aaj ka democracy sab ko equal chance deta he padne ka lekin kuch log padhte to nhi lekin jaat k niche job lekar sahab sahab bankar kar ghum rhae he. 8. Nov 30, 2016. I. F. S. C. Code no. C Parvathamma. so that atleast sandhu should be in image of jatt in eye and list of obc sc st category. This is our promis. PUTTTT JATTANNNN DE. e wrng a fr sir..pehla dhan guru granth sahib g fr guru ravidas g, Exactly, even Virk, Bhutta, Bhatti, Jassal, Johal and Saroa are Jatt Surnames, Gotras or sub castes have nothing to do with castes . As soon as there is any change in the list of SC category backward classes, they will be included in the Sc Cast list. The Gurus died and lost all they had fighting for this mission and yes the above imbocile has proved to be a kapoot putter and failed to be sapoot putter of the Guru. Avantivarman was a Chamar[6][7] king who founded the Utpala dynasty. Its not going to happen. i m chamar i used to yadav surname because of there thousand of people they belongs to chamar .but yadavs are not in chamar . I am merely pointing out the reasons why. so respect all castes , communities in the world. Many surnames are found in many castes! We finally, after all the hardships, have a voice, and i for one am glad that my people are using it. Yours and your children days are numbered for bulling low caste people. The Brahmins have divided them into so many castes and sub castes that they do not get on with each other and dont unite and therefore do not pose a challeng to the Brahmincal rule or the system they have created. chamaar caste is related to sikhism chmaar is a sikh but chmaar caste people not accept chmaar caste people liked hindu guru but chmaar caste real guru granth sahib ji. You know what you say is right! THAT IS WHY I RENOUNCED HINDUISM. No such thing again. People like you give me hope that not everyone in this world is bad. Go look up the meaning of the wordI just want to know why the fuck so many Jatt last names are posted there. So let no one get deceived and do a thorough investigation before you get deceived by them! So you will see a Sikh doing sewa and keeping the shoes of incomign sangat in gurudwara or washing the utensils in gurudwara. I dont care what chammars do, their still people in my eyes, but stop taking our last names and pretending to be us. Caste system is the root of all evil, especially in India , Johal and Sidhu arent Chamar they are Jatt, This site has very much wrong information, Dabi is not a chamar . In fact there are quite a few surnames there that arent!! Moghia We will all leave this world some day. All those people who work were classified as Sudras . tum bhikari ho sale bheekh hi magna aata h tumhe .kam se kam hum log kisi se beekha manng kar to nahi khate tum log jaise. later for politics and bad indian constituition dalit ko mara to atrocity and general ko mara to kuch nhi?? mennu apn caste de surname bare kujj ni pta, par me eh jroor das skda ha k me ik chamar ha, yr fer ki hoya jekar appa sare castes bare galla krde aa, me te es site te chamar community te research karn lyi aya c, mennu ki pta c loki apna inna mzak udande ne, yr chamars r jst like uh guys, mere/tere ja kise hor de mathhe te koi caste nai likhi, te upper castes bare me sirf ennak pu6na chauhna ee k yr upper castes he to wht, wht the fuck does that proves??? chamar caste surnames list in up. Brahamania is a chamar name u add this name, satnami koun hote hai plz rply me and surname kosale, plz give me some detail about noori in punjab (hoshiyarpur). I am B S Ranga, a chamar by caste and I dont find any problem in telling people so. Dear Jatt bhai, dont blame you for your nasty comment, i pity on your parents and your upbringing that you are talking like this. I dont believe in caste or status. Account No. PUNB0008100. 28/11/2021. and what about sodhi surname plwase answer my question . it is our identity. (Ah! Those born, bred and educated in the west find that caste system is a disgusting and antithesis of human value of liberty, equality and fratenity. I have one question in my mind, there are so many caste like virk sidhu sandhu kalsi mehra etc which are also in some other castes, if gotra are same than why the caste are separate? Pundit is only the teacher who know sashtra or any specific knowledge. SANDHU is not a Chamar they are well know Jatt caste, brave and notorious, dear bro. They conniving with politicians keep the pressure on at every stage from birth till death. Nobody from the Punjab work for them on little land they have and the baheeye who worked for them have also decided to return to U.P and Behar because those states are now thriving economically because the skills they have learned in the Punjab they are applying these skills there. Please remove Sandhu from your list. They helped to capture thousands of hindi speaking soldiers mostly Chamars of UP and Bihar who revolted against Britishers in Lahore Cantonment. Hmne pta hai ki sbb equal hai. Get a fuckin life! Chopras r khatri I think THERE ARE TWO REGIMENTS NAMED CHAMAR REGIMENT AND MAHAR REGIMENT. According to the 2001 census of India, the Chamars comprise around 14 per cent of the population in the state of Uttar Pradesh[36] and 12 percent of that in Punjab. All respectable social people are informed with great pleasure that the construction of a grand temple (gurudwara) of Saint Shiromani Ravidas Ji Maharaj has been envisaged by the social people, in which a Mangal Bhawan is to be constructed along with the Gurudwara. Abhi to napi hai muthi bhar jameen hamne, 5 Kler, Please add few more as Punia, Daroch, Atwal, Nalwati, Chunbuk, Chahal, Chalia, Berwal, Bodwal, Tanwar. each and every upper and lower cast should treat equally in every field. Take care. And others which I may have missed. We can never change the worlds so why do ravidassias get involved in so much caste issues and politics when our Bhagats and Gurus rejected caste. JAI BHEEM -JAI RAVIDAS-JAI BHARAT, Dear Sir, But my dad is jatt.. Our surname is kailey.. Sorry to see that the truth hurt you so much. so dont hate/abuse in the name of CASTE/VARNA by birth which poison in ur food / peace has been claverly put by shirkers to keep ALIVE brahminism causing great HARM to each n every one . Yours is a clear case that this form of discrimination does take place and the government will be very much interested. please add sharma..i am sharma and chamar, Hame garv hai ki ham des k chavar vansh se hai, Hame garv hai ki ham des k chavar vansh se hai.chavar vansh prachin kal me bharat me raj karta tha hamara videsi manuvadi se sangharsh huaa hamane aasani se ghutane nhi teke lekin ant me hamari haar huyi. https://www.sikhcastes.com/sikh-caste-names/jat-sikh-subcastes, Free fire ka probanda vansh ji please pick up the phone, https://ravidassia.wordpress.com/we-are-not-sikhs/, https://ravidassia.wordpress.com/#pd_a_2760757, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ypPI2oR0o. but if sum people think that the chamars r lower caste or inferior , then add me to the community and d caste of chamars. There is good and bad in everyone, you cant blame caste but blame the individuals who discriminate. , . people like you cause a devide in the community by making baseless claims. one time stand infront of mirror and ask yourself u r a jatt or chamaar or etc. Unfortunately a majority of Indians dont think like me.. Thats why India will never take a step forward on being equal! I have so many amritdhari Khalsa sikh members from my family who only attend the orthodox sikh temples, they will only attend guru ravidas temple if there was a occasion because they are sad to see temples using the name of guru ravidas Ji for their evil ways, Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa I love guru nanak ji quote before becoming a Muslim, a sikh, a Hindus or a Christian lets become a human first. But the above jatt lady had voted with her feet by marrying a chamar because she went for higher things than caste .ie love. Hello Ohhhhhh you silly chumars! 2. But other peoples eyes they just have a huge ego or think think are better then every individual just because they are a higher caste. These rules and regulations are illustrated in The Laws of Manu, Mahabharta, and Ramayan and other holy hindu books. They rather helped the Britishers to suppress the FIRST WAR OF INDEPENDENCE. Instead the slave in India is proud to be a slaves and activley promotes himself as a chamar, ragharia, jatt etc, who were all sudras. This surname occurs mostly in Asia, where 98 percent of Chamar live; 97 percent live in South Asia and 96 percent live in Indo-South Asia. Just read a book history of Jats where it has been shown a surname of Jat caste is found in many castes. Rathi surname kis caste me ate haiplease reply soon.. i am from nepal . Jai Guru Dev, Dhan Guru Dev 3.Kler Manister of state Ashu ji. 21/10/1992. sita shunted out of house by raja ramchander , was given shelter by dalit maharishi vamiki who earliar was hunter. Gulam banakar chote kam karvaaye gaye. Jai Gurudev! Therefore, a humble appeal is being made to all the respected social people that those who want to cooperate in the said construction work can give according to their ability, along with all the donors must give their photo along with their name and present place of residence so that social Your photo along with name and place of residence can be broadcast in the magazine. no in clan marrige is heared in chamars being sober peaceful n loving but in case jats many young couples have been murdered though both communities share same clan /gotra . (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Page 83), is not indicating false pride of jat race that their bahu of kunbi caste claiming rajput while jodha married to mugal akbar happily accepted n kept raja mansing in his service.